Forum Index • Register • Games • Search • FAQ • Bank • Memberlist • Usergroups • Log in Did Rev. James Cleveland Die of AIDs? Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next      Afrocentric Online Forum Index » Da Corner View previous topic View next topic Did Rev. James Cleveland Die of AIDs? Author Message QTPie Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 72786 Location Sinnin' and fallin' short. Bank 4294967295 Bones 999999999.99 Bones Did Rev. James Cleveland Die of AIDs? I had no idea. Was he also gay? _________________ Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:18 pm Marz Joined 10 Jul 2003 Posts 30641 Bank 4294967295 Bones 546141.53 Bones The latter question for Bobby Jones also. I'd give the head nod to "yeah" myself. Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:23 pm NEAquarius Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 14864 Location here, there, everywhere Bank 0 Bones 32687.20 Bones A couple of Cleveland's foster sons filed lawsuits against his estate saying he gave them AIDS from having sexual relations. I believe the heirs settled but they hushed it all up REAL quick. _________________ There are no stupid questions. But there are a lot of inquisitive idiots. Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:34 pm Blackbear Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 19593 Location Hibernation Bank 0 Bones 6584.86 Bones NEAquarius wrote: A couple of Cleveland's foster sons filed lawsuits against his estate saying he gave them AIDS from having sexual relations. I believe the heirs settled but they hushed it all up REAL quick. Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:40 pm QTPie Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 72786 Location Sinnin' and fallin' short. Bank 4294967295 Bones 999999999.99 Bones What the hell? _________________ Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:40 pm Blackbear Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 19593 Location Hibernation Bank 0 Bones 6584.86 Bones NEAquarius wrote: A couple of Cleveland's foster sons filed lawsuits against his estate saying he gave them AIDS from having sexual relations. I believe the heirs settled but they hushed it all up REAL quick. QTPie wrote: What the hell? I was expressing my shock disgust and unwillingness to listen to this. Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:49 pm QTPie Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 72786 Location Sinnin' and fallin' short. Bank 4294967295 Bones 999999999.99 Bones No, I'm sorry, I was 'whatting' the hell to the same thing. My God if that's true... God has him now. _________________ Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:52 pm Blackbear Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 19593 Location Hibernation Bank 0 Bones 6584.86 Bones QTPie wrote: No, I'm sorry, I was 'whatting' the hell to the same thing. My God if that's true... God has him now. Ummm..if this is true, God ain't gonna have nothing to do with him. Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:53 pm BLAQ Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 9644 Location Chocolate City Bank 4294967295 Bones 6268.42 Bones I'on remember an AIDS scandal, but I do know that Cleveland was gay. I thought his fat ass died from a heart attack. <--- yeah. I actually typed that. _________________ You're not good enough to post on my net utopia. Log off. Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:55 pm NEAquarius Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 14864 Location here, there, everywhere Bank 0 Bones 32687.20 Bones http://www.qrd.org/qrd/www/culture/black/articles/gospel.html 'Legally, I became his' The case of the Rev. James Cleveland may best epitomize the magnitude of the silence. Christopher Harris certainly feels that way. When he was 13, Harris was the only boy alto in the choir at Cleveland's Los Angeles church. He was strapping 6 feet tall and looked 20. Cleveland was a giant in the industry. He wrote more than 400 songs, recorded more than 100 albums, 16 of them gold, and won four Grammys. He founded the Gospel Music Workshop of America and mentored a young Aretha Franklin. When he died in 1991 at age 59, 6,000 attended his funeral. Harris is now 25 and has HIV. "It has its moments, but mostly it doesn't affect me unless there is stress," said Harris, who is Cleveland's former foster son. Harris once went by the name Christopher Cleveland. That was before he filed suit against Cleveland's estate alleging five years of sexual contact that ended with Harris testing positive for HIV. "Legally, I became his," he said in a telephone interview from his home in Los Angeles. The case was settled out of court. The terms prohibit him from discussing the settlement. But he is free to discuss his live with Cleveland. "I went to his church. He looked into my face and saw my dreams and he used it," he said. "I wanted to sing, I didn't want to be like him. He promised that he would help me. He just played it to his advantage, he used my naiveness to his gain," Harris said. Harris said his sexual encounters with the older singer were not molestation. Nor, he said, were they his first such encounters with a man. He says that they were typical of the secretive lifestyle of many of the people to whom he was exposed. "People in [Cleveland's] inner circle knew, people at church knew," he said. "But they pretended it didn't exist. I guess what you don't see you can't say. But I can." "No. He didn't die of heart failure--heart failure is just a delusion," Harris said, nearly laughing. The he hesitated. "Let's just leave it at that." _________________ There are no stupid questions. But there are a lot of inquisitive idiots. Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:57 pm QTPie Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 72786 Location Sinnin' and fallin' short. Bank 4294967295 Bones 999999999.99 Bones I was just about to post that. YUCK, I'm going home. _________________ Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:00 pm mack Joined 16 Jan 2002 Posts 56379 Location Snotlanta Bank 4294967295 Bones 990059910.99 Bones He was gay. He died of AIDS. He was friends with Little Richard. _________________ It is easy when we are in prosperity to give advice to the afflicted. ~Aeschylus (525-456 B.C), Greek poet and dramatist~ Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:05 pm NEAquarius Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 14864 Location here, there, everywhere Bank 0 Bones 32687.20 Bones Marz wrote: The latter question for Bobby Jones also. I'd give the head nod to "yeah" myself. I used to work with a woman who grew up with Bobby Jones. She said she and all her classmates always figured he was gay. _________________ There are no stupid questions. But there are a lot of inquisitive idiots. Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:08 pm zuri Joined 17 Jan 2002 Posts 15009 Location atl shawty Bank 0 Bones 17814.00 Bones i remember the one and only time i went to james cleveland church, was when my church youth choir was invited to sing there. i wanted to get walk up out that choir stand as soon as i saw that big ass cross made of red light bulbs at the top of the ceiling. that was the weirdest and creepiest shit i ever saw, i don't know why it creeped me out so bad but it did. Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:20 pm FelonMistress Guest Bank 0 Bones 10.00 Bones from my earliest memories until adulthood, i attended the gospel music workshop of america with my granny....(ran by cleveland-----different city every year) dude was definitely gay.....and that convention was THE PLACE for all manor of gays and queens to be. every hotel in a 30 mile radius was a HOEFEST. It was known to most people at the convention that he died of AIDS, and just about all the men who attended have been dead for years now. i stopped going. Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:18 am Retta72 Joined 02 Mar 2002 Posts 4678 Location TexASS Bank 4294967295 Bones 1959.06 Bones This is some sick shit and is exactly why i stopped going to church on a regular basis- all you see is gay men in the church from the gay male choir director to the gay ushers. YUCK! Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:59 am DaSmoov1 Joined 03 Jul 2002 Posts 6552 Location Ohio Bank 0 Bones 22979.21 Bones That is sad. Everyone up in NE Ohio heard that he was gay, but I didn't know about the young guy with AIDS> That is just sad. _________________ Without Christ, it ain't Spiritual, all it is is just a bunch of Spare Rituals. Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:37 pm JayBrizzy Joined 15 Jun 2002 Posts 3683 Bank 4294967295 Bones 6371.08 Bones Now you see why a lot of Black churches and preachers won't touch the homosexuality issue. They'd have to out a lot of choir members,choir directors,gospel artists, and other ministers. _________________ I hate it when you read.--OHB Sept 2010. Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:48 pm The_Hooded_Claw Joined 09 Jun 2004 Posts 711 Bank 4294967295 Bones 889.05 Bones R&B singer Glenn Jones alleged that Mr Cleveland came on to him numerous times. Word was Cleveland did die of AIDS and was not discrete in his chasings of young men. Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:51 pm Retta72 Joined 02 Mar 2002 Posts 4678 Location TexASS Bank 4294967295 Bones 1959.06 Bones I remember Donnie McClurkin came out and said he "USE TO BE GAY". I ain't buying it, how can you just up and stop being homosexual? Even if he stopped having sex with men to honor his marriage to a woman, I know he still has those desires to have sex with a man and being in the church arenas as much as he is I know plenty of men throw themselves at his feet so how does he handle that? I got a feeling he handles it alright, handles it up the arse. _________________ What shit you talkin' now? 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