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...aka The 2012 Presidential Election Thread

Let's get ready to rumble!

With Mitt Romney being the apparent GOP nominee, it looks like it will be President Barack Obama v. Willard "Mitt" Romney for the Presidency of the United States.

With the rise of the SuperPACs, it's going to get ugly. I believe that the Koch Brothers and all of the other pro-Republican PACs will through all of their money into trying to destroy Obama, from another round of Rev. Jeremiah Wright to perceived failures both domestic and foreign.

I'm concerned that a lot of people will take an Obama victory for granted and not get out to vote, while the Tea Potty forces will be galvanized and ready to ambush the polling place. We saw in 2010 how effective the Tea Potty can be when they descend on voting booths. It would be nice to see these Occupy movements direct their energies to an "Occupy The Voting Booth" movement come November.
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[quote="PM"] It would be nice to see these Occupy movements direct their energies to an "Occupy The Voting Booth" movement come November.[/quote]

[color=darkred]From your lips...

I know that the ATL "Occupy" movement was hi-jacked by an opportunist who is a "homeless advocate". The "homeless" are NOT a sympathetic constituency in Atlanta and as for the guy, his ego took over pretty quick and the Mayor showed him who's 'joint' is bigger in fast order.

Also...many of the "activists" on the Left are unfocused and treat "subscribers" (they all blog and spam you to death) are not articulate, nor do they take into account that many of us DO work and have jobs and responsibilities. Their rhetoric is aimed at the college undergrad crowd...passionate but dumb.

All that to say...we need some grown-ups in here.[/color]
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This election is going to be very very ugly. As PM already stated, the Koch Brothers are going to make sure that money is no object when it comes to negative campaign ads, especially the ones that are just aren't true. We know that there are plenty of people out there who don't research the issues/candidates for themselves and they just believe what Faux News and other right wing outlets tell them.

Citizens United has to be one of the worst decisions every by the Supreme Court.
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I ditto the sentiments of everyone.
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[quote="DamnYouAll"]This election is going to be very very ugly. As PM already stated, the Koch Brothers are going to make sure that money is no object when it comes to negative campaign ads, especially the ones that are just aren't true. We know that there are plenty of people out there who don't research the issues/candidates for themselves and they just believe what Faux News and other right wing outlets tell them.

Citizens United has to be one of the worst decisions every by the Supreme Court.[/quote]

Great points. And that is what I am worried about. And I agree with you that you have people on the right, that will believe everything that they hear from many of the right wing news outlets. Shoot, you have some folks, who still think that President Obama is a communist, a socialist, a Muslim, etc. This is going to be an ugly election.
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[quote="faceman68"] This is going to be an ugly election.[/quote]
The uglier the better!


[size=24][url=http://soundfxnow.com/soundfx/LetsGetReadyToRumble.mp3]LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!![/url][/size]



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Maybe if folks would wake up, and actually go out and vote. Things could get better for all.

This vote season, should be ugly, and down right dirty as hell. The voting public needs to get Government off our backs.
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Ted Nugent should be [url=http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-ted-nugent-controversy-20120417,0,7167751.story?track=rss]the gift that keeps on giving[/url] to the Obama Campaign. A Democratic Party (or Pro-Obama) SuperPAC should make Ted Nugent's inflammatory rhetoric the talk of the day until November.

Of course, the Right has not said anything of substance in response. Their faux-outrage over the Hillary Rosen issue shows just how weak the GOP is. Imagine if a pro-Obama supporter said that he'd be dead or in jail should Mitt get elected.
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The thing that's so funny about Mittens and the Ted Nugent situation, is that he hasn't said a thing at all. Despite the inflammatory things Ted has said that has drawn the scrutiny of the Secret Service his way. Yes his camp has said something mildly about it....but that's the extent of their response. Its pretty sad.

But these comments were really nice there Ted:
- "I'm a black Jew at a Nazi-Klan rally," and this gem "And there are some power-abusing, corrupt monsters in our federal government that despise me because I have the audacity to speak the truth."

- "I think Mitt Romney's already denounced my guitar playing because it's too sexy," "Mitt Romney knows what I'm saying is true. He puts it in the words for him, I put in the words for me."

Uh huh.
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While the GOP is scrambling all over themselves to take credit for taking out bin Laden, let's not forget what Mittens said in 2007 about how much of a priority Osama bin Laden was:

[quote]"itís not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person."[/quote]

Taken from [url=http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/romneys-2007-bin-laden-gaffe-comes-back-to-haunt-him.php]this article[/url].
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to put it bluntly, the Republicans are the problem

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/04/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html?tid=pm_pop

[i]Rep. Allen West, a Florida Republican, was recently captured on video asserting that there are ď78 to 81Ē Democrats in Congress who are members of the Communist Party. Of course, itís not unusual for some renegade lawmaker from either side of the aisle to say something outrageous. What made Westís comment ó right out of the McCarthyite playbook of the 1950s ó so striking was the almost complete lack of condemnation from Republican congressional leaders or other major party figures, including the remaining presidential candidates.

Itís not that the GOP leadership agrees with West; it is that such extreme remarks and views are now taken for granted. ...[/i]
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The [url=http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/05/06/478820/obama-swift-boat-veterans-for-a-strong-america/]Swiftboating of Obama[/url] has begun.

However, this "veterans group" really has nothing. Their best piece of ammo is Obama "taking too much credit" for taking out bin Laden. Interesting perspective, when the knock on the Democrats were that they were always weak on defense. As long as "Mission Accomplished" and that horrible "Tribute To 911" crap exist, they have nothing to say about politicizing these kinds of issues.

Conversely, Mittens has his [url=http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/05/07/479577/romney-woman-treason/]McCain Moment[/url] with a crazy supporter, and does nothing to refute it, until a reporter asks him about it. Even then, Romney drops the ball.
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The hits just keep coming. First, Mittens says that [url=http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/05/08/479889/romney-credit-auto-industry/]he deserves credit[/url] for the auto industry bailout, knowing good and well that he was against it. Then, everybody's favorite self hating negro, Jesse Lee Peterson, says that allowing women to vote was [url=http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/05/08/479998/jesse-lee-peterson-women-vote/]one of the greatest mistakes[/url] that America has ever made.
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To hear Mitt tell it HE created everything. He's worse than Al Gore and the internet creation. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Greene County, Virginia GOP Group's Newsletter Calls For 'Armed Revolution' If Obama Is Reelected
Posted: 05/08/2012 8:41 pm


A monthly newsletter published by the Greene County Republican Committee in Virginia is raising eyebrows for including a column in its March edition that calls for an "armed revolution" if President Barack Obama is elected to a second term in November.

Among articles denouncing a University of Virginia initiative to implement a living wage for employees of the institution, questioning if Obama is "Americaís Most Biblically-Hostile U. S. President?" and an op-ed slamming the GOP establishment with generous use of capital letters, RightWingWatch picks out a column from the newsletter's editor, Ponch McPhee.

In it, McPhee urges readers to encourage other conservatives to vote in November. He goes on to warn that the consequences of not defeating Obama, a so-called "ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized," would be dire.

"[W]e shall not have any coarse [sic] but armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November," McPhee writes. "This Republic cannot survive for 4 more years underneath this political socialist ideologue."

A disclaimer at the bottom of the publication apparently attempts to account for this type of rhetoric, noting that the contributors do "not reflect the opinion of the Republican Party whole or in part" and are only representative of the "individual" -- in this case, the editor himself.

According to the newsletter, McPhee also hosts a public radio show that airs every Saturday morning at 5:30 a.m on Charlottesville's WTJU.
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[quote="DamnYouAll"]The hits just keep coming. First, Mittens says that [url=http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/05/08/479889/romney-credit-auto-industry/]he deserves credit[/url] for the auto industry bailout, knowing good and well that he was against it. Then, everybody's favorite self hating negro, Jesse Lee Peterson, says that allowing women to vote was [url=http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/05/08/479998/jesse-lee-peterson-women-vote/]one of the greatest mistakes[/url] that America has ever made.[/quote]


Why am I not surprised that Uncle, uh, I mean Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, would say something so stupid as saying that allowing women to vote was the greatest mistake that America has made. I would not be surprised that he says that America should bring back slavery.
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[quote="DamnYouAll"]Greene County, Virginia GOP Group's Newsletter Calls For 'Armed Revolution' If Obama Is Reelected
Posted: 05/08/2012 8:41 pm


A monthly newsletter published by the Greene County Republican Committee in Virginia is raising eyebrows for including a column in its March edition that calls for an "armed revolution" if President Barack Obama is elected to a second term in November.

Among articles denouncing a University of Virginia initiative to implement a living wage for employees of the institution, questioning if Obama is "Americaís Most Biblically-Hostile U. S. President?" and an op-ed slamming the GOP establishment with generous use of capital letters, RightWingWatch picks out a column from the newsletter's editor, Ponch McPhee.

In it, McPhee urges readers to encourage other conservatives to vote in November. He goes on to warn that the consequences of not defeating Obama, a so-called "ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized," would be dire.

"[W]e shall not have any coarse [sic] but armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November," McPhee writes. "This Republic cannot survive for 4 more years underneath this political socialist ideologue."

A disclaimer at the bottom of the publication apparently attempts to account for this type of rhetoric, noting that the contributors do "not reflect the opinion of the Republican Party whole or in part" and are only representative of the "individual" -- in this case, the editor himself.

According to the newsletter, McPhee also hosts a public radio show that airs every Saturday morning at 5:30 a.m on Charlottesville's WTJU.[/quote]

The Politics of Fear. Rolling Eyes
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Face, that's exactly how Dubya won his second term though. That isht works Confused

I haven't looked yet, but Obama's campaign slogan is "Forward"? Hunh? C'mon son.

But before I totally spread that rumor I guess I could look it up Laughing They have GOT TO BE more than just inspiring this year, the economy is a biatch and that ALWAYS takes down a sitting president, regardless of their political affiliation. Ask Herbert Walker. Laughing
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[quote="PM"]The [url=http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/05/06/478820/obama-swift-boat-veterans-for-a-strong-america/]Swiftboating of Obama[/url] has begun.

However, this "veterans group" really has nothing. Their best piece of ammo is Obama "taking too much credit" for taking out bin Laden. Interesting perspective, when the knock on the Democrats were that they were always weak on defense. As long as "Mission Accomplished" and that horrible "Tribute To 911" crap exist, they have nothing to say about politicizing these kinds of issues.[/quote]

I didn't know that Alan Colmes had it in him. He completely [url=http://www.politicususa.com/abandon-ship-how-the-left-sunk-the-swiftboating-of-barack-obama.html]torpedoed the Swiftboating Obama movement[/url]. It was masterful. Colmes asked questions I usually expect from Lawrence O'Donnell, Keith Olbermann, or Cenk Uyger. The "transparency" question was outstanding.
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[quote="aisha"]Face, that's exactly how Dubya won his second term though. That isht works Confused

I haven't looked yet, but Obama's campaign slogan is "Forward"? Hunh? C'mon son.

But before I totally spread that rumor I guess I could look it up Laughing They have GOT TO BE more than just inspiring this year, the economy is a biatch and that ALWAYS takes down a sitting president, regardless of their political affiliation. Ask Herbert Walker. Laughing[/quote]

Yeah, but the economy is slowly recovering maybe not as fast as ppl like but it is. It would be idiotic to change course esp when the party that created such upheaval returns to the top office. Mitt was ready to say bye to GM. The GOP has nothing to argue about except, abortion and gay marriage. Rallying the soc-cons is what detracts us from the real issues.
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