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[color=darkred]No...I don't care for mediocre shit either.

I think you got twisted the wrong way in the first episode and you're not willing to get past it just yet. Laughing

I don't think the character, the writing, or the show is "perfect" either. I'm saying she's believable...you're saying she's not. I can see what you're saying on the "fleshing out" part, but I don't agree with you on the character not being credible. That's all.[/color]
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[quote="MrHardcandy"][color=darkred]No...I don't care for mediocre shit either.

I think you got twisted the wrong way in the first episode and you're not willing to get past it just yet. Laughing

I don't think the character, the writing, or the show is "perfect" either. I'm saying she's believable...you're saying she's not. I can see what you're saying on the "fleshing out" part, but I don't agree with you on the character not being credible. That's all.[/color][/quote]

I felt like the first episode was rushed. I already stated that I liked the second episode much better.

You eff with her credibility out the gate when you rush ALL ASPECTS OF HER PERSONHOOD in one fell swoop.

It's like... when they fleshed out Miranda Priestly, you are freaked out by her amazing efficiency... so that when she falls apart, you allow it, because you already trust her.

PACING is everything when you tell a proper story. The way that they're telling the story threatens the character's credibilty, because what we're learning about her from the first moment... is that she's messy. That should come later. Establish her with us... let us in little by little... so that we're okay when you pull back the curtain and tell us what's REALLY up.

When your gut is wrong on the FIRST decision you make in the FIRST episode...

I don't trust your gut from now on. Why should I? You couldn't nail it out the gate. Problem.
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[color=darkred]But her gut WASN'T wrong...she CHOSE to ignore it...which is why she went through all the gyrations of insisting she meet with the President, why she was so upset as she left the park bench and called the Chief of Staff, and why she kept trying to [i]not [/i]hear Quinn about the woman...is because she was rationalizing [i]against [/i]her gut feeling that the president was the scumbag on this one. [b]That's[/b] why she got burned.

I'm surprised by you...that was so obvious.[/color]
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Okay.
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[quote="ingenue"]Okay.[/quote] Laughing
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She made the choice first, after smirking at the camera and telling us that she always trusts her gut.

[b]Then[/b] she went through the rigamoro of making sure she made the right decision. There is no evidence that she didn't trust her gut until AFTER she allegedly trusted and made a snap decision about that girl.

And that's the last I'll say about it... because really, you're not paying attention to the idea of fleshing out a character and proper pacing. I also understand that they're a mid-season replacement so they have to rush to get us to fall in love with it. I'm just part of the % that didn't. I'm certain that I'm jaded by cable series, which seem to have much more time and leeway to nail their stories properly.

I'll leave you to it. I'm sure the series will do just fine. I've given up on nearly all network shows because of these kinds of details. This one is likely no different.
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[color=darkred]Got it...


...scrappy. Wink Laughing

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Shocked

Shit just got real! The sidepiece is knocked up, and all hell is about to break loose.

Cyrus seems to have his own agenda, playing this situation from both sides.

Last, but definitely not least, the shot of KW being escorted out of the WH....... Twisted Evil
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i knew it, i knew it. the side piece was holding on to tough for her not to have something else on the president.

who do ya'll think sent the cd?

and the first lady knew about the affair between her husband and olivia. Laughing Laughing

its getting good and scandelous.
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[color=darkred]I missed the rest of the conversation between the President and the Chief of Staff regarding the CD. I think its Olivia on the CD...that's why he looked like THAT. I also think the First Lady sent it. Did anybody [i]really [/i]think she was that clueless?[/color]
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I figured the first lady wasn't entirely clueless, but she had me like "whoa" when she told the Prez that he could sleep better now that he saw Olivia.
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[quote="MrHardcandy"][color=darkred]I missed the rest of the conversation between the President and the Chief of Staff regarding the CD. I think its Olivia on the CD...that's why he looked like THAT. I also think the First Lady sent it. Did anybody [i]really [/i]think she was that clueless?[/color][/quote]


I too think the First Lady sent that tape. She's going to get what she wants out of the deal too.
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I like the show so far. didn't see the whole POTUS thing coming tho. Definitely DVR worthy
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Umm no guys Cyrus set up that tape to divide Olivia and the Pres. Cyrus is the "woman scorned"

The Pres' wife already has what she wants. I bet her ass takes out Cyrus in the end.

I may be an ass but I'm already tired of Quinn's continued na´vetÚ. Plus I need her to have some ideological, religious or political view/basis (or shit even a view of current events does she not read the paper or watch the news?) so that she can serve credibly as the "moral compass" they have set her up to be. Gimme a break. If she could call dude a baby lawyer in Ep 1 that means she's been practicing for a while right? Lets give her about 5 years and put her at 27. By then she would have heard and seen enough even if she was practicing wills and trusts (arguably least controversial area) or only practicing before alj's to have some savvy. She has none. It's annoying. They'd have been better off with her being a top grad just out of school.

I like the show tho
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[quote="BishopTuTu"][quote="MrHardcandy"][color=darkred]I missed the rest of the conversation between the President and the Chief of Staff regarding the CD. I think its Olivia on the CD...that's why he looked like THAT. I also think the First Lady sent it. Did anybody [i]really [/i]think she was that clueless?[/color][/quote]


I too think the First Lady sent that tape. She's going to get what she wants out of the deal too.[/quote]

I know she knows something, but what exactly is where the show is going to slowly go.

Cyrus definitely has an agenda now...divide and conquer.

I think that was the POTUS on the phone and not the reporter, but it would mean that she's talking to him all while pretending she's not...or the big twist would be the usual, she has a "BF" and her sexual history will come out. Confused

I LOVE HUCK!!!
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Ok, I figured the baby twist, but who kidnapped her?
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I'm thinking its FLOTUS.
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[quote="noirprncess"]I'm thinking its FLOTUS.[/quote]
DITTO!

With the help of a ninja warrior Laughing Laughing
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[quote="noirprncess"]I'm thinking its FLOTUS.[/quote]

I was thinking that too when I saw the previews....I wonder if she is trying to set POTUS up. I think her kidnapping has to do with her change of heart, so if FLOTUS is involved she may be completely involved, from the initial set up (sleeping with POTUS) to the lie (baby) to the kidnapping (possible death/murder). She knows what type of shark Olivia Pope is and she's pissed that POTUS is in love with her...so why not kill two birds with 1 stone?
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[color=darkred]Yeah...the 1st Lady is a bit shady. She shows flashes of her disgust with her husband...like in the limo...
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Fuck yeah nigga, I'd have a problem saying goodbye to all this shit over your dick issues. Get it together, muthafucka![/i][/color]
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